1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,280 I'm on my way to Roswell, New Mexico, which is ground zero for modern-day UFO researchers. 2 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:18,800 It's very exciting to go to a city that's steeped in alien lore, but I'm not going there 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,720 to investigate the Roswell crash site because that's been done a thousand times before. 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,080 My mission involves a much more recent discovery. 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:33,080 I'm headed out in search of the Roswell rock. 6 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,080 My name is Georgiy Otsukilos. 7 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:44,080 I explore the world that exists between reality and speculation, the known and the unknown. 8 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:56,080 What we've been taught by mainstream scholars is not the whole picture, but I'm convinced that every day we are one step closer to the truth. 9 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:16,080 On July 7, 1947, an unidentified object crashed on a ranch just outside the town of Roswell, New Mexico. 10 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:27,080 The next day, the local newspaper announced that officials from the Army airfield had reported the capture of a quote unquote flying saucer. 11 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:37,080 But just a few hours later, the military revised that statement to say the object was nothing more than a weather balloon. 12 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:49,080 According to reports, the government removed all debris from the site of the crash, and to this day, not a single piece of evidence has been recovered. 13 00:01:49,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Now this to me is the most fascinating part of the story because the object that I'm here to investigate was found near the vicinity of the crash site. 14 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:07,080 So what if it is the one piece of evidence the military missed? 15 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:26,080 The first day of the crash was the day of the crash. 16 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,080 How are you today? 17 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,080 Good, how about you? 18 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,080 Good, thanks. What can I get you to drink? 19 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,080 Have some coffee, please. 20 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,080 Would you like cream or? 21 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,080 Just black. 22 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,080 Okay. 23 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,080 Thank you. 24 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,080 What brings you to Roswell, New Mexico? 25 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:46,080 I'm meeting a guy who might have potentially found an alien artifact, so I'm here to investigate. 26 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,080 Really? 27 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,080 You're not the first one to ever say that walking into this place. 28 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,080 Ever, right? 29 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,080 Never. 30 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:59,080 A local man named Robert Ridge discovered the Roswell Rock about ten years ago while tracking deer in the desert. 31 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:05,080 And he found right near the area where the UFO allegedly crashed in 1947. 32 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:11,080 Now the Roswell Rock is this small triangular shaped rock of brown color. 33 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:19,080 It has this design on top of it that isn't etched into the rock, but it actually protrudes from it. 34 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:27,080 And it's interesting to me that most people I meet in Roswell have never even heard of this rock. 35 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,080 Robert? 36 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,080 Hey, Georgie. 37 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,080 Pleasure to meet you. 38 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,080 Thanks so much for coming out and meeting me. 39 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,080 It's great. 40 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,080 Have a seat. 41 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,080 Yeah. 42 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,080 Are you folks? 43 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,080 Yeah, I'm a little bit. 44 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,080 Yeah, good. 45 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,080 Want a drink? 46 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,080 It's my tea. 47 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,080 Lemon? 48 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,080 Please. 49 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,080 Did you bring the rock? 50 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Yeah, yeah, I did. 51 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:52,080 Oh, wow. 52 00:03:52,080 --> 00:04:00,080 I did not expect this level of detail. 53 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,080 It is smaller than I'd expected. 54 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,080 Definitely heavier than I expected. 55 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:14,080 I mean, the precision is... 56 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,080 Wow. 57 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:23,080 The Roswell Rock reminds me of precision cut rocks I've seen before in other parts of the world, 58 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:30,080 like the obelisks in Egypt or Oyantetambo in Peru. 59 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,080 Are there any strange properties to this rock? 60 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,080 It has some type of magnetic field in it. 61 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,080 A magnetic field? 62 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,080 Yeah. 63 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,080 How do you mean? 64 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,080 Well, it reacts to a magnet. 65 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,080 Did you bring a magnet? 66 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,080 Sure. 67 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,080 I happened to have my magic wand with me here. 68 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:53,080 It might spin for me today, I don't know for sure, but... 69 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:58,080 Oh, wow. 70 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,080 That's interesting. 71 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,080 Let me see if I can... does it work with anybody or does it only work with you? 72 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Well, I guess I'm probably better at it than most. 73 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,080 Wow. 74 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:21,080 That is sure strange. 75 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,080 And is this the only space where it makes it spin? 76 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,080 No, the other circle... 77 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,080 It does it over here as well? 78 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,080 I don't know. 79 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,080 I think it will send it clockwise. 80 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,080 Oh, wow. 81 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,080 There's something else you might find interesting. 82 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,080 You mess with something long enough you pretty much learn everything about it. 83 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:43,080 I was messing with it one day and I got it to where it was. 84 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,080 It kind of draws to my other hand. 85 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,080 I try to keep this hand as still as I can in this. 86 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:55,080 So it's almost reacting with your body energy. 87 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,080 That is wild. 88 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,080 Well, would you be opposed to show me where you found the rock? 89 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,080 Oh, no, I'm up for that. 90 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Oh, yeah. 91 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,080 Let's go. 92 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Check, please. 93 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,080 So what do you do for a living? 94 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,080 Well, I've been in the painting body business, you know, for basically all my life. 95 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,080 I've owned my own chops. 96 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Oh, that's cool. 97 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,080 Excellent. 98 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,080 All right, now you're going to need to take a ride up here and then come around. 99 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:28,080 You'll kind of see the turban on what there. 100 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,080 There's a lot of history here. 101 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,080 This air base. 102 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,080 In the 40s, it was the sack base, strategic air command. 103 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:40,080 This is the place that they brought the debris from the 47 crash. 104 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,080 This is the place. 105 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,080 So, so Hanger 84 must be around here. 106 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Off over here somewhere, I believe. 107 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Hanger 84 is where the military allegedly took the debris and alien bodies after the crash in 1947, 108 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,080 before eventually moving them to another location. 109 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,080 It's kind of surreal to be walking on the same tarmac. 110 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,080 So here's our pilot. 111 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,080 How you doing? 112 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,080 Are we ready to go? 113 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,080 We're ready to go. 114 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,080 Are you ready? 115 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,080 Absolutely. 116 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,080 Okay, let's get moving. 117 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,080 Sweet. 118 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:15,080 Firing up the engines. 119 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,080 Let the adventure begin. 120 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:32,080 Where is the crash site, in relation to where you found the rock? 121 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,080 It's 11 miles. 122 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,080 What we call the skip site. 123 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,080 And what do you mean by the skip site? 124 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:45,080 It's where the foster made contact with the ground first, left a massive debris field, 125 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:51,080 and then proceeded back towards the mountain, where it finally came to rest. 126 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,080 Why do people believe that that is fun? 127 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,080 Jim Ragsdale and his girlfriend were up here camp. 128 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,080 They actually saw the crash come in and were the first ones on the scene. 129 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,080 That's why they call it the Ragsdale site. 130 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,080 They supposedly saw the bodies and everything. 131 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,080 There it is. Right here. Where's the spot? 132 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,080 This is it, right here? Yeah. 133 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,080 Wow. 134 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:27,080 So do you think there's a connection between the crash and finding this rock? 135 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,080 The government did a thorough sweep. 136 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,080 Maybe they missed something, I don't know. 137 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,080 What's the significance of this? 138 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,080 I mean, it's kind of mind-blowing. 139 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:46,080 So this is the trail that was on. 140 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,080 And what brought you out here? 141 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,080 This is a deer country, you know. 142 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:57,080 This is in the right season, the right time of year, the deer just thick in here. 143 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:04,080 I saw fresh deer tracks across the road in front of me, so I thought I need to get out and follow these tracks. 144 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:10,080 So I get out and start following the tracks and they bring me around through here. 145 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:16,080 I look over up on that edge there and it's there sits. 146 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:24,080 And I'm thinking to myself, rock doesn't really fit in and looks like it has a design on it. 147 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,080 You go ahead and place it where you found it. 148 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,080 Sure. 149 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:33,080 I'd say probably like that. 150 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,080 Yeah. 151 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,080 A lot of people might have walked by it, but I'm not a lot of people out on this. 152 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,080 Right, right. 153 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,080 So that's how it was. 154 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:50,080 You know, it was in 04 also, so this has changed a little bit. 155 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,080 The sand looks like it's a little bit darker in here right now. 156 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:58,080 I can totally see now that it does stand out from the environment. 157 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:04,080 So do you think there's a connection between the crash and finding this rock right here? 158 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,080 I think it's possible. 159 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,080 You know, the skip site is this direction. 160 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:19,080 It was a massive debris field from, you know, all accounts that was left behind. 161 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:27,080 And so if it was moving that fast, you know, to skip off the ground like a rock on the water, 162 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,080 why couldn't that have been thrown this far? 163 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:38,080 You know, the government did a pretty thorough sweep of this country when that happened. 164 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:44,080 And maybe they missed something I don't know, but I thought it was special from the very first moment I hit my hand. 165 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:51,080 The military allegedly spent months recovering debris, but the sand out here is constantly shifting. 166 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:57,080 So it's very easy to see how they could have missed something as small as the Roswell rock. 167 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:05,080 Now what I want to do too is I want to see if we can find maybe some similar rocks around here so we can, you know, draw a comparison. 168 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,080 Great, I'm always up front in the rock. 169 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,080 All right. 170 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,080 There's some rocks right over there. 171 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:25,080 All I see is some rocks that are the same color like the sand, but it's definitely not the same. 172 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,080 That's for sure because you compare that. 173 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,080 And I mean, it's not even the same category. 174 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,080 Not a whole lot out here to resemble that in any way. 175 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,080 So I want to put these in my bag. 176 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:45,080 And so, you know, for the next couple of days, I want to definitely mull over what happened today. 177 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,080 And I'm going to go ahead and do some investigations on my own. 178 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,080 So let's head back to the chopper. 179 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,080 Let's do it. 180 00:11:55,080 --> 00:12:04,080 So I'm on my way to Albuquerque to see Linda Moulton-Hall, an investigative journalist who has done extensive research, 181 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:10,080 not only on the original Roswell incident, but also on the Roswell rock. 182 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:23,080 I have read on Earth files that there is a clear connection between a crop circle that was found in 1996 in England 183 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,080 and also the Roswell rock. 184 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,080 Pretty much the two designs are identical. 185 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,080 What can you tell me about that? 186 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,080 At first I thought, could it really be identical? 187 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,080 And we can do a comparison here. 188 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:42,080 Now, on the left is the rock, the actual rock in its pattern. 189 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:47,080 And on the right is the crop formation in wheat, 120 feet long. 190 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:53,080 And when you take each item, you can measure it across. 191 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,080 They're exactly identical. 192 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,080 Wow. 193 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,080 So you clearly think that the crop circle wasn't man-made. 194 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:08,080 In this one particular case, they had a pilot and a passenger who said that they had flown over the field 195 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,080 and there was nothing there, and they flew back over. 196 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,080 It couldn't have been more than a half hour. 197 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,080 And here was this pattern. 198 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:21,080 There were four layers thick where the crop was layered as one direction would flow and meet another, 199 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:27,080 another direction would come over and there's no board, string, foot. 200 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,080 Nothing can do that. 201 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:36,080 It was one of the most perfect, clean lays that anyone had ever seen, meaning perfection. 202 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,080 What's the significance of this? 203 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,080 I mean, it's kind of mind-blowing. 204 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:49,080 Basically, we're dealing with lunar astronomy, the moon and the sun and the tracking of the symbols. 205 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:54,080 This is reflecting past, present and future. 206 00:13:54,080 --> 00:14:06,080 This is relating to space and time that moving through the universe has got to be on a point-to-point, 207 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:11,080 bending space-time that quantum physicists have talked about. 208 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:19,080 We really do think something that the capital S is trying to teach us humans. 209 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Now the fact that we have equal but opposite images of what appears to be the sun and the moon 210 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:33,080 brings to mind a concept from the ancient Hindu texts known as the Vedas, and that is, as above, so below. 211 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:40,080 In other words, what happens here on Earth is connected directly to what happens up there in the sky. 212 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:50,080 The very fact that Robert Ridge's rock would have these magnetic properties that would spin clockwise and counterclockwise, 213 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,080 was it constructed that way by some intelligence? 214 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Was it a fluke of nature? 215 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:01,080 In Georgia, no one has proved this rock to be hoax. 216 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,080 Linda, I thank you very much for this conversation. 217 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:09,080 The information that I've learned this afternoon, has that been absolutely invaluable? 218 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,080 Thanks very much. 219 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:26,080 Honestly, I really thought that this rock might be some fake, but after seeing it in person and after talking to Linda, 220 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:31,080 I'm beginning to think that what we have here could be something quite extraordinary. 221 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:38,080 So now it's time to put the Roswell rock through some serious scientific tests. 222 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:45,080 So you're going to try to replicate this item here? 223 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,080 Exactly. 224 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,080 Give it your best shot. 225 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,080 This is a foreign object. 226 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,080 We need to look inside the rock. 227 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,080 In fact, I've got the device right here. 228 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,080 Oh, hell no. 229 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:05,080 One of the biggest questions concerning the Roswell rock is whether or not the design on it is man-made. 230 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:11,080 And those who claim it is say that because the design rises out of the rock, 231 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:17,080 the most likely way it would have been made is not with laser cutting or machining, 232 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:24,080 but with a process known as sandblasting, which can be used to cut away the rock around the design. 233 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,080 Alright, let's go. Let's check this out. 234 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:32,080 So Robert and I decided to meet with a stone cutter to put this theory to the test. 235 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,080 Hey, guys. 236 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,080 How you doing? I'm George. 237 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,080 Nice to meet you. 238 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,080 Glad to meet you. 239 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,080 I'm Rick. David. 240 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,080 Glad to meet you. 241 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,080 So what do you have set up for us here today? 242 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:48,080 Well, I'm trying to see if I can make a rock that looks like a Roswell rock. 243 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,080 So you're going to try to replicate this item here? 244 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,080 Exactly. 245 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,080 I'm going to try to show you how we do this. 246 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,080 What processes will you be using? 247 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,080 We'll be using a stencils, cutting, and a sandblasting. 248 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,080 Okay. That's awesome. 249 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:09,080 I got a head start. I copied the design, traced it, put it on a computer, ran it through our computer system, 250 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,080 and cut the design, cut it in a few different sizes. 251 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,080 And of course, all I had to go was by this picture. 252 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,080 So you can get a pretty good tracing off of that. 253 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,080 Robert actually brought the Roswell rock, so if you want to give the rock... 254 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,080 Yeah, I thought I would help you out, so... 255 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,080 Check it out. 256 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,080 What are your impressions right now? 257 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,080 Do you feel anything? 258 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,080 No, I don't. 259 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,080 I don't blame you. 260 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,080 What are your thoughts? 261 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,080 It's kind of interesting. 262 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:56,080 It's got some markings right there around that edge with our little vapor. 263 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:01,080 It's got a 90 degree there, and then it bevels around on this side. 264 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,080 It's got this cup in the bottom here. 265 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,080 Very interesting. 266 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Thank you. 267 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:13,080 Every one of those cuts and every one of those are achievable by man. 268 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Give it your best shot. 269 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,080 Alright. 270 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,080 All right. 271 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,080 Still that sense of loss. 272 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,080 First one finished, get surprise. 273 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,080 You're already gone. 274 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,620 Young five minutes ago, yes. 275 00:18:56,620 --> 00:18:59,280 Oh, that's 10 times bigger. 276 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,200 Now, I think that this here has a piece of art 277 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,240 that you've just created. 278 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:13,440 It looks awesome, but it does not match the Roswell rock. 279 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,360 Well, of course, it's a different rock. 280 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:18,680 These are perfect circles here and perfect cuts. 281 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,320 OK. 282 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,680 I could take my little tool and I could make perfect circles. 283 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:25,680 I had to. 284 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,960 You can take and knock off those little edges. 285 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,880 It's simply not the same. 286 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,000 I mean, this is an incredible creation, 287 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:42,080 yet this and that, to me right now, is different. 288 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,120 And I know you had a half an hour to do this. 289 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:46,040 Thank you. 290 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:46,840 I mean. 291 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,840 Make sure, for my reputation, you say that. 292 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,240 That I only had a half an hour. 293 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,080 Of course. 294 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,320 This was supposed to be the ultimate proof 295 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,840 that this is a sandblasted piece. 296 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,280 I got to tell you, Robert, I am more intrigued now 297 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,680 than I was in the previous days. 298 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,120 All right, David, thank you very much for opening up 299 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:07,920 your shop for us. 300 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,440 Anytime. 301 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,360 All right, take care. 302 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:09,920 Thank you. 303 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,720 Thank you, sir. 304 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,480 The sandblasted replicas appear very different to the naked eye, 305 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,800 but Robert and I are going to take an even closer 306 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,800 look under a microscope. 307 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,120 We're meeting with geoarcheologist Dr. Bill Dolman, 308 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:29,800 a man who has been studying rocks for over 30 years, 309 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,080 in order to get an expert opinion on just what type of rock 310 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,160 the Roswell Rock might be. 311 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,920 Must be Giorgio. 312 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,760 I am. 313 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:42,960 This is Dr. Bill Dolman. 314 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:43,480 Giorgio. 315 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,360 Pleasure to meet you. 316 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:45,480 Pleasure to meet you, sir. 317 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,000 And Robert, pleasure to see you again. 318 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,480 You too. 319 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,040 We're here to look at the Roswell Rock. 320 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,840 Now, I know you've seen this rock before, 321 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,600 but we're here to draw some comparisons with some other rocks 322 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:03,440 that we found in the area, and also a sandblasted piece 323 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,320 that we had done earlier. 324 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,480 So here's the rock, and then we're 325 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,760 going to look at this under the microscope today, right? 326 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,560 We're going to look at it under a microscope, 327 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,360 and we're going to talk about whether that rock could 328 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:16,600 have come from there naturally or not. 329 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,320 I can't wait to see this under high magnification. 330 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,200 Me neither. 331 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,280 OK. 332 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,920 Now, you found this where? 333 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,960 Well at the base of the Capitan Mountain. 334 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:26,680 OK. 335 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,480 Let's take a look at the geology map here. 336 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,600 So that would be here's Roswell, 337 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,560 and here's the Capitan Mountains right here. 338 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,000 So we're smack in the middle of a whole bunch of blue. 339 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,240 The blue is limestone. 340 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:48,200 Now, this rock doesn't look like limestone to me. 341 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,160 So right off the bat, it seems kind of unusual in that place. 342 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,360 Now, did you get any rocks from the area? 343 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:55,960 I did. 344 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,400 Absolutely. 345 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,080 We collected some right here. 346 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,800 You guys are real scientists. 347 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,920 Well, we do what we can do, you know? 348 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,320 I play the sorting game here pretty quickly. 349 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,520 Do some high powered scientific tests. 350 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,960 Mm-hmm. 351 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,920 Now, this is limestone. 352 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,000 See, I can easily cut it with a point of a knife. 353 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,360 You're cutting into this Y, so you can determine the hardness? 354 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:23,480 Test the hardness, exactly. 355 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,600 Limestone generally can be scratched 356 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,120 with the point of a knife. 357 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:29,360 What I find striking though is where did that come from? 358 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:33,320 Exactly, because this totally falls out of line 359 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,600 with everything that we have here. 360 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,280 So why do you think that is, or what is your hunch 361 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,440 on what this might actually be? 362 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:45,000 Basically, it's what geologists would call a pebble. 363 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,200 It's rounded, and that kind of rounding 364 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,280 is very typical of stones that you find in a stream. 365 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,400 So anyway, what's interesting to me 366 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,920 is that this is a uniform color all over, 367 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,240 and that's very unusual. 368 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,400 As you can see, any one of these rocks 369 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,400 has got different colors in different parts. 370 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:02,800 Mm-hmm. 371 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,520 And do you think that this might have potentially 372 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,320 been painted? 373 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,840 There's some coat of paint on there. 374 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,120 I'll tell you whatever you like to do. 375 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:11,520 In fact, I've got the device right here. 376 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:17,960 I often use this to just grind down and polish 377 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,760 the surface of a rock to give myself a clean polished surface 378 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,760 to go through the patina or whatever is on there 379 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,680 to really look at the rock's structure using a microscope. 380 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,560 Robert, what do you think? 381 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,760 Oh, hell no. 382 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,600 No, that thing ain't going to work. 383 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,240 Well, I didn't think so. 384 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,600 It actually is. 385 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,680 So for all intents and purposes, this 386 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,000 is a foreign object to this particular region. 387 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,720 Even not looking at the design, yes. 388 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,520 It looks like it's my whole nature. 389 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,480 Oh, we haven't even talked about the design yet. 390 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,440 Well, I keep looking at it. 391 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,520 It's not for me, though. 392 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,040 But yeah, I mean, it's kind of hard to miss when you're 393 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,360 looking at it. 394 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:57,520 Earlier, we went out there to meet with a sandblaster, 395 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,600 and he was 100% convinced that this is a sandblast of piece. 396 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,640 A fabrication. 397 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:03,140 Yes. 398 00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:07,520 And so what he did was he created these replicas right 399 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,480 here, and we brought them to you for comparison. 400 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,520 I'm guessing that these are both some kind of plastic 401 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,520 sedimentary rock. 402 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,320 I'm going to get it set up, and you guys can take a look here. 403 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,760 All right, why don't you guys take a look? 404 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,400 See what you see. 405 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,520 Mm-hmm. 406 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,000 Yeah, you can definitely see a difference 407 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,000 between the two surfaces. 408 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,000 The granular structure of the rock. 409 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Yes. 410 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,000 Mm-hmm. 411 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,520 Now, let's put the razzle rock under this, 412 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,200 because that's what we came here for, 413 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,520 to look at this under magnification. 414 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,520 Oh, wow. 415 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,520 This is wild. 416 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,520 The edges are so clean. 417 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,520 I mean, it's as if this was carved with some type of a very 418 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,520 fine knife. 419 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,520 Wow. 420 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,520 It's crazy, huh? 421 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,520 I'll say. 422 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,520 I mean, this is not even the same ballpark as the sandblast 423 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,520 pieces. 424 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,520 I mean, here is the crazy thing. 425 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:39,520 I've seen edges like this before at Puma Punku. 426 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,520 Puma Punku is a site in Bolivia that many scholars believe 427 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,520 is more than 10,000 years old. 428 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,520 There, you can find dozens of giant granite rocks that 429 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,520 appear to be cut with extraordinary precision. 430 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,520 Now, no one has ever been able to explain how 431 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,520 supposedly primitive people would have accomplished this 432 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,520 using copper and chicken bones. 433 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,520 But according to the local native legends, 434 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,520 they say that the stones weren't carved by humans at all, 435 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,520 but by the gods. 436 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,520 Looking at the razzle rock under magnification, 437 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,520 I'm beginning to think it's possible that this is not a 438 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,520 carving made by some science fiction fan, 439 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,520 but it appears to be the result of some type of advanced 440 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,520 technology, whatever it may have been. 441 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,520 Now, could it be man-made? 442 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,520 Still, of course, cannot rule that out. 443 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,520 To my mind, I've seen almost looks as if that was clay 444 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,520 that got carved with a very fine instrument. 445 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,520 Yeah, that's... 446 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,520 I mean, it's extraordinary. 447 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,520 As a scientist, what would you recommend for our next tests? 448 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,520 Well, I think we need to look inside the rock, 449 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,520 and we need to evaluate two things. 450 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,520 One, it's got a magnetic field, apparently. 451 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,520 We'd like to know more about the origins of it. 452 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,520 Two, we're not really sure whether it's multiple pieces, 453 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,520 whether it has a magnet inside it. 454 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,520 So I've got a friend who's an electrical engineer, 455 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,520 and he has access to some very high-grade testing equipment 456 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,520 for measuring magnetic fields. 457 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,520 Second of all, I've got a friend who has a CT scanner, 458 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,520 and that's basically a three-dimensional X-ray of the rock. 459 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,520 And so we'll learn all sorts of things about the inside 460 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,520 of that rock. We're not done yet. 461 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,520 No, the investigation has just begun 462 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,520 because I am definitely intrigued. 463 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,520 So thanks again. Appreciate it. 464 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,520 Have a safe trip. I'll see you soon. 465 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,520 All right, bye-bye. 466 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,520 Here's a really magnetic field there. 467 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,520 Wow, we got an 11. 468 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,520 This is getting weird, but one of the things I want to do 469 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,520 is grind a little bit off the back of that rock. 470 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,520 I don't want you to have one last chance to say, 471 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,520 maybe we shouldn't do this. 472 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,520 The next step in solving the mystery of the Roswell rock 473 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,520 is to find out why it spins when brought in contact with a magnet. 474 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,520 Dr. Doleman is arranged for a meeting 475 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520 with an electrical engineer, Nathan Menhorn, 476 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:12,520 and he has agreed to bring a whole bunch of sophisticated instruments 477 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,520 from his lab to his garage, 478 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,520 where we can bring the rock and perform magnetic field tests. 479 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,520 So, Nathan, Robert showed me that with a simple magnet, 480 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,520 he was able to make the Roswell rock spin. 481 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,520 So there are some type of magnetic properties. 482 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,520 We want to figure out if we can use some more sophisticated instruments 483 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,520 to determine whether or not there's really something interesting 484 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,520 about this particular rock that we have here. 485 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,520 It'd be kind of interesting to know, 486 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,520 A, is there really a magnetic field there? 487 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,520 B, what is its strength? 488 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,520 And C, what's its orientation inside the rock? 489 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,520 What tests do we have lined up today? 490 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,520 Okay, so the first test that I'd like to do 491 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,520 is measure the field strength of the rock. 492 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,520 Cool. Let's get started. 493 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,520 All right. Show us the goods. 494 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,520 Okay. 495 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:09,520 So, we want to calibrate the magnetometer first 496 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,520 to make sure we're getting accurate readings. 497 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,520 And what is this black thing right now? 498 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,520 This just isolates the probe from any magnetic field. 499 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,520 Okay. 500 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,520 Now... 501 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,520 So, on the tip of the rock, we have about... 502 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,520 We want to have 2.8 gallons. 503 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,520 So, what about 2.8? 504 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,520 About this end. 505 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,520 Close to zero there. 506 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,520 Close to zero there. 507 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,520 So, the field is going to be coming out of here. 508 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,520 So, this would be the north pole of the magnet, 509 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,520 and this would be the south pole. 510 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,520 So, with the north pole, we're getting a positive reading 511 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,520 because the magnetic field is coming out 512 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,520 and then it's coming back around 513 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,520 and going into the south pole. 514 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,520 So, let's probe around a little bit more 515 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,520 and see what else we can see. 516 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,520 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 517 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,520 Yeah. 518 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,520 Some good data. 519 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,520 All right. 520 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,520 That's 8.8. 521 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,520 Okay. 522 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,520 All right. 523 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,520 We got an 80-point flare, right? 524 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,520 It's getting higher. 525 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,520 It's getting weird. 526 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,520 It's a symbol that does it. 527 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,520 Wow. 528 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,520 And it's the second part of the rock. 529 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,520 We got an 11 right over the fracture. 530 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,520 We got an 11.3. 531 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,520 The edge of the design. 532 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,520 That is pretty amazing. 533 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,520 There are some rocks found in nature 534 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,520 that contain magnetite or other magnetic minerals 535 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,520 like a lodestone, for instance, 536 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,520 which the ancient Olmecs in Mexico 537 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,520 actually used as a compass over 3,000 years ago. 538 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,520 But I do find very curious 539 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,520 that the magnetism in the Roswell Rock 540 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,520 seems to be concentrated in one area. 541 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,520 If there is a magnet, let's say, 542 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,520 artificially embedded, 543 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,520 then it would be right underneath 544 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,520 this area right here. 545 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,520 That's correct. 546 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,520 Mm-hmm. 547 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,520 Is that something that you could imagine 548 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,520 that there might be a magnet inside? 549 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,520 Yes, there could be. 550 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,520 It's very, very, very possible. 551 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,520 After Nathan suggested 552 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,520 that there may actually be a magnet 553 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,520 planted inside the rock, 554 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,520 I was more determined than ever 555 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,520 to cut into it to verify 556 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,520 that it is, in fact, a solid rock 557 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,520 and not some plaster cast 558 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,520 made from a mold or painted. 559 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,520 And so reluctantly, actually very reluctantly, 560 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,520 Robert agreed to let us use a grinder 561 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,520 on the backside of the rock. 562 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,520 You're the man, Robert. 563 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,520 Wow. Here we go. 564 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,520 It's hard. 565 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,520 I think we need to do more grinding. 566 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,520 We're going to find something out about this rock. 567 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,520 I think you have amazing courage to let me do this, 568 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,520 and I greatly appreciate it as well. 569 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,520 But I want you to have one last chance to say, 570 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,520 you know what, maybe we shouldn't do this. 571 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,520 Last chance. 572 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,520 Let's do it. 573 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,520 Let's do it. 574 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,520 Let's do it. 575 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,520 You're the man, Robert. 576 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,520 Wow. 577 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,520 Here we go. 578 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,520 It's hard. 579 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,520 I'm going to try one more shot at grinding 580 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,520 and collect the dust that comes off of there 581 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,520 in case we want to analyze it later. 582 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,520 I think we need to do more grinding. 583 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,520 Robert was genuinely affected by us 584 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,520 grinding into the Roswell rock. 585 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,520 I mean, the guy was tearing up, 586 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,520 and it's hard to imagine him doing that 587 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,520 if he knew that the rock was going to be broken. 588 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,520 I can imagine him doing that 589 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,520 if he knew the rock was a fake. 590 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,520 This rock isn't just a novelty to him, 591 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,520 but it's almost as if it's a part of him. 592 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,520 The grain or the fissure continues 593 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,520 inside the natural rock. 594 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,520 Absolutely. 595 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,520 So it kind of confirms the rock. 596 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,520 Robert, come over here. 597 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,520 Yeah, Robert, you got to see this, buddy. 598 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,520 You have to see this. 599 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,520 You know, I'm a bit emotional. 600 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,520 It's okay. 601 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,520 Right here, this is a natural rock. 602 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,520 There's no question that no paint has been applied to this. 603 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,520 Yep. 604 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,520 You can breathe now. 605 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,520 If this thing was a plaster cast 606 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,520 made from a mold, 607 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,520 we would have found out about it right there. 608 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,520 But whatever this thing was made up of 609 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,520 is certainly much harder than plaster, 610 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,520 and we now know that it was definitely not painted. 611 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,520 This is a very, very fine-grained 612 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,520 Corsic sandstone. 613 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,520 Magnetite has what we're looking for. 614 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,520 I am going to go under the assumption 615 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:11,520 that they 616 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,520 are the little black flecks I'm seeing in here, 617 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,520 although I expected them to see a lot more. 618 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,520 Magnetite could explain the Roswell Rock's magnetic charge, 619 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,520 but we found much less 620 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,520 than what Dr. Dolman was originally expecting. 621 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,520 But why does it have a magnetic charge at all? 622 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,520 And one that's highly concentrated 623 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,520 in one specific part of the rock's design, 624 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,520 that is still a mystery. 625 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,520 This is much finer-grained than I expected it to be. 626 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,520 So at this point in time, I'm going to say, 627 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,520 even with this power, 628 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,520 short of thin-sectioning the rock, 629 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,520 it might be kind of hard to determine what it is 630 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,520 just because it is so fine-grained. 631 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,520 And so I think that when we look at the X-rays of this thing, 632 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,520 we're going to have another chance to think about, 633 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,520 well, is the inside different than what we can see 634 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,520 having only shaved off about half a millimeter. 635 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,520 Right. 636 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,520 And thank you once again, Robert. 637 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,520 I mean, I'm just cut all sorts of pride in you 638 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,520 for being willing to do this, 639 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,520 because I think a lot of times, you know, 640 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,520 when push comes to shove, people back out. 641 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,520 You didn't back out. 642 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,520 You didn't. 643 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,520 And that to me was the telltale sign. 644 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,520 And it was like, you know, 645 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,520 because I was like holding back, 646 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,520 and I was like, you know, 647 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,520 well, no, where's this going? 648 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,520 If he takes that rock, 649 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,520 he's like, come on here. 650 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,520 You didn't do that. 651 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,520 Oh, I left the real one at home. 652 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,520 Sorry. 653 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,520 Yeah. 654 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,520 Okay, so here's what we know. 655 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,520 We've established that the Roswell rock 656 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,520 isn't some fan-made rip-off. 657 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,520 It's not plaster. 658 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,520 It's not painted. 659 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,520 It's a real stone with a finely carved design 660 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,520 that cannot be easily reproduced. 661 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,520 It's also magnetic, 662 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,520 but we still don't know why exactly. 663 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,520 So now we need to find out for sure 664 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,520 if there isn't some little magnet 665 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,520 or something hidden inside the rock 666 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,520 that makes it move and spin the way it does. 667 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,520 Well, this is a CAT scanner, 668 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,520 and it takes a beam of X-rays 669 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,520 and passes them through a body 670 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,520 and detects them, puts it through a computer, 671 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,520 and makes images that you can interpret. 672 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,520 That's fantastic. 673 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,520 Do you have the rock? 674 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,520 Well, yeah. 675 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,520 Let's do it. 676 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,520 There it is. 677 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,520 Whoa. 678 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,520 I've never scanned anything quite like that, though. 679 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,520 So this is a first. 680 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,520 Let's go ahead. 681 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,520 Let's do it. 682 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,520 Okay, boss. 683 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,520 Take her away. 684 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,520 Okay. 685 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,520 We're trying to come right across the design. 686 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,520 Okay. 687 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,520 You know, to show it and get it all in one plane, 688 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,520 because the surface of the rock is slightly rounded. 689 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,520 Mm-hmm. 690 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,520 Right. 691 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,520 That's the design. 692 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,520 Wow. 693 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,520 We're essentially flying through it. 694 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,520 Right. 695 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,520 Right. 696 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,520 Or a star of the earth. 697 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,520 What's going on right here? 698 00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,520 See that? 699 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,520 Wow. 700 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,520 It's a star. 701 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,520 It's a ganglion, actually. 702 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,520 That's the nerves of the rock. 703 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,520 What we see here on the screen 704 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,520 is the inside of the rock, 705 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,520 and it appears almost entirely white, 706 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,520 which means it's very dense throughout. 707 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,520 We see a gray line indicating less density 708 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,520 where the fracture is, 709 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,520 but overall, this thing is pretty solid. 710 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,520 Now, if this rock was carved by some process 711 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,520 other than sandblasting, 712 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,520 we still can't figure out what it was. 713 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,520 And who would choose such a hard rock to cut into? 714 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,520 We're looking right down the long axis of the rock. 715 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,520 Mm-hmm. 716 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,520 And there's the design. 717 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,520 Right. 718 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,520 And we're looking to see if there's any density behind that, 719 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,520 as if it were a pleat onto the surface, 720 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,520 which we don't see. 721 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,520 So now we're paging through. 722 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,520 The design is scrolling through. 723 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,520 Exactly the same material as rock itself. 724 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,520 It does. 725 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,520 You can see any discontinuity between the pieces. 726 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,520 I do not see any. 727 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,520 So I'd like to go back to, like, at right angles, 728 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,520 the reason being this question that we had, 729 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,520 is there anything inside the rock that might be responsible 730 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,520 for the magnetic properties that it has? 731 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,520 And nothing is present. 732 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,520 We don't see any density in there. 733 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,520 But we don't see some clear-cut object inside that rock 734 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,520 still count for the magnetism or anything else. 735 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,520 The great thing is that we now know 736 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,520 that there is nothing inside the Roswell rock, 737 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,520 because some people have suggested that there's an insert of magnet inside 738 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,520 or something like this, 739 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,520 but clearly there is nothing inside of it. 740 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,520 And that is what I was curious about. 741 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,520 I think this is all incredibly fascinating. 742 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,520 Me too. 743 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,520 It's great. 744 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,520 After conducting the final test on the Roswell rock, 745 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,520 I met up with Robert one last time 746 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,520 to get his thoughts on everything we discovered this week. 747 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,520 There you are. 748 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,520 Hey, good to see you again. 749 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,520 How are you? 750 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,520 Fine. 751 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,520 All right. 752 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,520 Wow. 753 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,520 What a week, huh? 754 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,520 Man, before I tell you what I think, 755 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,520 I want you to tell me what do you think? 756 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,520 How do you feel? 757 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,520 I'm just thrilled that everything we've done 758 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,520 is short up and validated 759 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,520 what I've always felt about the rock. 760 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,520 Great. 761 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,520 Do you have the rock here? 762 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,520 Yeah. 763 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,520 I happen to have the rock here. 764 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,520 Well, he kind of travels with you all the time. 765 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,520 Thanks very much. 766 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,520 You're welcome. 767 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,520 Appreciate it. 768 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,520 Do you need anything else? Just let me know. 769 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,520 You got it. 770 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,520 Sweet. 771 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,520 There it is. 772 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,520 This part right here, you can forever tell people, 773 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,520 well, this is where they did testing. 774 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,520 This is where they ground into the rock. 775 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,520 Right. 776 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,520 Sure. 777 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,520 I know that there were some pretty emotional moments 778 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,520 to say the least. 779 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,520 Yeah. 780 00:39:54,520 --> 00:40:00,520 Well, you know, it's hurt to take it from the original state 781 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:01,520 that I founded in, you know? 782 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,520 That was a deep point where I was still on the fence 783 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,520 and then we drilled into it. 784 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,520 We determined right there and then 785 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,520 that it's not a plaster piece. 786 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,520 It's not painted. 787 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,520 And then the CT scan. 788 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,520 And of course, also looking at this 789 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,520 under great magnification. 790 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,520 Wasn't that cool? 791 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,520 Well, I didn't know it was just too cool. 792 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,520 Yes. 793 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,520 I mean... 794 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,520 I'd believe my mind when we saw that. 795 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,520 Especially when I saw the incision marks 796 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,520 under high magnification. 797 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,520 It's as if this was a soft piece of butter 798 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,520 that eventually hardened. 799 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,520 And I have seen these type of surfaces before 800 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,520 in other places around the world 801 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,520 where sophisticated tools were used. 802 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,520 I didn't see that. 803 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,520 I think that we have an artifact here 804 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,520 that might potentially be ancient. 805 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,520 And so... 806 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,520 maybe this piece wasn't left behind 807 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,520 after the crash, 808 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,520 but that this is what they were looking for. 809 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,520 A key. 810 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,520 Who knows? 811 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,520 It might truly be of extraterrestrial origin. 812 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,520 Now, that is pure speculation, 813 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,520 but that does not prohibit me from asking questions. 814 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,520 Sure. 815 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,520 And we all know if those questions are uncomfortable, 816 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,520 and I always ask the uncomfortable questions, 817 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,520 so be it. 818 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,520 I don't care. 819 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,520 Right. 820 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,520 So this has been nothing short of amazing. 821 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,520 And so before I leave, 822 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,520 I wanted to give you one of these. 823 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,520 Oh! 824 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,520 Wow. 825 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,520 The ancient pre-Columbian gold flier. 826 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,520 I know this. 827 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,520 I know this. 828 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,520 I'm glad. 829 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,520 I know this very well. 830 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,520 So you are now part of the club. 831 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,520 Well, thank you. 832 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,520 Thank you so much. 833 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,520 And, you know, I hope that this won't be the last town 834 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,520 in which we see each other. 835 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,520 I hope not even. 836 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,520 Thank you very much. 837 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,520 I appreciate that. 838 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:57,520 Yeah. 839 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,520 Take these with me. 840 00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,520 She's glad to have you. 841 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,520 And, you know, give me a call. 842 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,520 Yeah, I have your number, so. 843 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,520 Anything new about this, for sure. 844 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,520 You got it. 845 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,520 All right, Robert. 846 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,520 Thank you, George, you go. 847 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,520 Thank you very much. 848 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,520 Have a safe trip. 849 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,520 Take care. 850 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,520 So now, when I connect the dots, 851 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,520 what do I think that the Rosal Rock actually is? 852 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,520 Well, perhaps it was supposed to be found 853 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,520 back in 1947, 854 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,520 but when it wasn't, 855 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,520 the crop circle was made 856 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,520 maybe as a second attempt 857 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,520 to give us the message. 858 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,520 And what is the message? 859 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,520 Maybe it's a type of star calendar, 860 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,520 letting us know that they're out there 861 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,520 and that they plan to return one day. 862 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,520 Let's face it, 863 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,520 the final chapter of this book 864 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,520 has not yet been written. 865 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,520 But in the meantime, 866 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,520 I'm off once again in search of aliens.